Mr Bill O'Reilly how are you sir Hey how you doing back good you know I Was talking to you and I couldn't Remember if you said this on the air or If you told me this off the air but this Is kind of what you said would happen uh If they settled or lost the Dominion Case you said you thought there would be A lot of house cleaning uh at Fox just Because of the monetary damage do you Think that's what happened to Tucker Carlson no uh it was a look to the Future So you know it's a shame that we live in A country where the reporting is so lazy And sloppy and dishonest because of Agenda that's number one and you know I Appreciate you have me on the program I Appreciate your listeners Um actually trying to figure out what's Going on Um because it's important you know the Uh the Fox News Channel led to Donald Trump being elected president that's a Pretty his strong historical Situation yeah Donald Trump would not Have been president If not for the Fox News Channel I agree So now that's God I mean Trump doesn't have that he Doesn't have that advantage in this Upcoming election So that's the big story here other than The personalities
Now shoot me the questions you want to Know about what happened and I will tell You what I know which is most of it okay So then tell me the story what happened Well The company itself Is in turmoil Not Because of the Dominion settlement they Can well afford the 800 million dollars Because of people like you and me which Made them countless dollars in the past So you got a four million dollar War Chest It was the future lawsuits That led to Mr Carlson's demise and he Didn't even know it by the way he had no Clue so yesterday at this time 24 hours Ago The Tucker Carlson producers were in Their morning meeting setting the lineup For Monday night So all this bull about they made the Decision on Thursday last Thursday or Friday it's all bunch of crap okay they Might have made that decision back well There's only one guy who can make that Decision yeah Rupert that's it yeah Nobody else had anything to do with this Decision to tell him agree yeah you Should get rid of Carlson Carlson didn't Have a lot of allies because nobody does There's no Tammy Wynette in television News standing by your man no no okay no
Lawyers the Seas get choppy you drown And they'll help you drown they'll throw You overboard so anyway the reason that Rupert Murdoch made the decision was Because his lawyers News uh Fox News lawyers are saying We got a lawsuit by this producer who Came in and taped everything So what does that tell you Tells you she came in with it and Perhaps a plan all right Not Unusual in These days I'll tell you what it's Unbelievable what's happening in Corporate America But they have a lawsuit already filed in New York City Apparently they have tapes that the Lawyer for the woman says you know we Might put him out there And those States would not make the Calls from broadcast look good Number one number two 60 Minutes Sunday Night who's there Ray Epps hey Ray Ray Looking into the camera going hey Tucker Calls to ruined my life to rob my family It's a loss what do you think is going To happen now Beck lawsuit you bet you Bet big one Then you have smartmatic you've already Gone over that the other boating machine Company which really isn't that big a Concern because they only had one County LA county that they did business with in The last election so they'll get paid
Off and it's not a big deal but then They have the shareholders the people That bought Fox News stock that Company's stock and they're getting Hammered and they're going to sue People inside Fox News that means board Members that means the Murdoch's that Means all of those people For Fraud It's and that's going to be massive it's Interesting to me that BlackRock just Increased uh by I think 14 percent uh Their uh Holdings of News Corp but they Did it back in February yeah I don't Know know if that's a good play now I'm Not sure And so All of this is kept from the American Public they don't understand a political Implication which this hurts the Trump Campaign big time all right and the Business equation that was made And that cause removal of Tucker Crossing it was as they say in The Godfather it's business not personal Sunny Okay so Bill how is this hurting the uh Uh the Trump campaign just because you Think that this will really hurt fox in Ratings no Because In 16 the Fox News channel was very Favorable to Donald Trump
And then ratings skyrocketed and he had Access to almost every program and say What he wanted I gave him the hardest Time But Basically the whole operation was Pro-trump And anti-hillary Now the operation doesn't want Trump to Be president All right and their viewership Already on the decline And pretty seriously in the 25 to 54 Range yeah as we discussed last time I Was on a program yeah Um is going to be a free fall An absolute Free Fall they don't have Anybody to put in at eight o'clock so That's the most key slot There isn't one program on Fox News Channel That's growing in the ratings Not one They have no bench And most importantly everyone who works There is frightened So you do the math back What do you think of I've heard a lot of People are canceling Fox Nation because He was a big part of that uh did Documentaries etc etc how do you think Their online is going to do because well All I can tell you is that last night Billoreilly.com Picked up 400 new premium members yeah
Yeah we're seeing an increase as well I Think people are canceling Fox Nation And and uh and canceling Fox I I think There's going to be real turmoil what do You think that Tucker does Uh he's gonna make a fortune Do you think he has a non-compete in Play and if so it doesn't even matter Nobody's going to hire him in the in the Corporate media no I know that he's got Nowhere to go there his non-compete Would include anything electronic you Can't do electronic no You absolutely can't do it Who can do is direct competitor Non-competes So what he'll do Um is form his own agency like you have With the Blaze and yeah I have with Billoreilly.com He'll do a Rogan ask Um podcast yeah And he'll make a bloody Fortune yeah he Will he will uh do you think he'll have The same impact that he had at Fox well Look This is what people don't understand Again Um the impact that Television news has is maybe 60 percent Less than it was yes when I left six Years ago it's ironic it's six almost to The week six years that I left Because
The balkanization of the news driven by Social media and the uh availability That people can watch whenever they want On their devices Has lessened the impact that The cables and the network news used to Have So yeah he's not going to be seen on a Channel every night but I could argue That in my operation since I left Fox News I've had four number one Best-selling books Tens of millions of dollars in revenue For my television operation I've got 300 radio stations carrying my Daily commentary So you tell me yeah I I will tell you That our footprint now uh is bigger than It was when it was when we were at Fox And we're having our best year ever uh Right now and it's just different Because people are There is no one Gathering Place and that That's the thing with cable news the way It was before there was one Gathering Place and you would see those on in bars And everything else there isn't that now And that's the only one but nobody's Paying attention to it because it's Boring correct look the reason that you Succeed is that you're not boring back It's not because of your good looks That's ridiculous yeah Um okay and but you put on a program
That people tune in to listen to on the Radio because they don't know what You're going to say you don't know where You're gonna go Carlson had that same appeal so many Most television news presentations you Turn on the show you know exactly what You're gonna get because you get it Every night But Carlson his talent Was that he would come after Situations in a different way Now if I had produced this program I Would have required more discipline And not because he got himself into Trouble On a number of occasions when he didn't Have to okay you just had to do a little Bit more reporting and back up stuff a Little bit more but that's just not Important he alienated the Um corporate media they got him just Like they got me I don't know about your Circumstance but surely over the years Oh you've had a lot of people oh my gosh Brought to you oh yeah and that's the Bottom line on it again these media Corporations whether it's fox or CBS NBC They have no loyalty to anyone but the Bank teller okay yeah that's it No matter how loyal you are no matter How many much money you made them no Matter what the circumstances if they Feel your reliability they're gone it's
Yeah Avalanche time for you welcome to The one and only Megan Kelly uh from the Megyn Kelly show she does on XM Sirius Right after this program on the Triumph Channel 111 she also has her YouTube Channel Um that you can watch her show every day The Megyn Kelly show on YouTube uh Welcome Megan how are you hi there I'm Great how you doing I'm good uh so I Just talked to Bill O'Reilly and his Take on Tucker Carlson was Um that uh this is because of the Threats of lawsuits for instance Ray Epps uh was on 60 Minutes on Sunday Uh it's not only just to destroy voices Uh but this Gravely hurts the Trump Campaign as well What is your opinion on what happened With Tucker Carlson Um Agreements but he's brilliant however The River this would be scared by that Ray Epps lawsuit at all and I also think all The reporting that they got scared by This Abby grossberg's lawsuit a Disgruntled fired Former low-level producer for Tucker and At one point Maria scared them even a Little she's got tapes okay what does She have tapes of people on his staff Saying things Tucker was never in the Office Tucker works from his home
Um either in Maine or down in Florida he He he's I guarantee you Tucker's never Had more than one conversation with Abby Grossberg so she's not going to have Tucker Carlson on tape and even if she Did Glenn Fox does not fire people over Random nasty comments to a low-level Producer it's certainly not their number One star that doesn't make sense now Tucker is very controversial Tucker's in The news every week for yet another Thing it is possible Rupert reached the End of his tether for Tucker and there Are reports that there may be some Emails in connection with the Dominion Lawsuit that we haven't seen that Tucker That that they have in which Tucker Lambasts people like Rupert I I also find it hard to believe that Would lead him to fire Tucker because Money Rupert's been around the block He's a tough guy he doesn't offend Easily correct but it is true that if They think you're getting too big for Your britches over there oh yeah they're Not shy about sending you a message So at the end of the day Do you think that's it But I mean I don't know I don't know They do have to worry about shareholder Lawsuits which are coming in now in the Wake of dominion you know and it's not Entirely Rupert's shop anymore you know He does have a board he has to answer
Too I also think that if they have any Desire to sell Fox News and there's been Rumblings about that especially once Rupert is gone Um they're gonna want it to be quote More mainstream and getting rid of Tucker would be a good step for getting Rid of Dan bongino would be another step Maria Bartiromo by might be another one Though I'm told Rupert absolutely loves Her so it's probably not an accident she Didn't go even though they just paid out 800 million in connection with some of The things she said So I don't know uh but that makes sense To me but I'm told by people who are in A position to know no sale pending no Seller kicking the tires at the moment Now there is something else going on They're going into negotiation for their Cable news contracts I think that might play a role You know that always comes up but it Takes a lot for these cable providers to Tell somebody like Fox we're not going To carry you because of the Controversial man at eight I mean I just Don't believe it it Tuckers too much of A draw with the audience And it would have to be a uniform Position by you know DirecTV and Time Warner Cable and all of these people Which it wouldn't be Fox is too much of A money maker for the cable providers
Too I I don't know what happened but I do Believe there's no way it happened Without personal sign off by Rupert so You left at the height of your career to Go to NBC Um I left uh arguably at the height Um to start the blaze which was crazy Insane Um Tucker is is gone now but I don't Think he's going to get a mainstream uh Cable network or show and I don't think He would want it but now there's Endless opportunities for him to make Gobs of money uh if that's what he's Looking to do and have a real impact Just not with any Corporation Right yes He'll be financially even better off Once he goes on his house I mean I have No doubt of that he if he's smart Tucker Will do a subscription show where he Never has to worry about Advertiser Boycotts again you know you always have To worry about lawsuits you have to say Factual but there's insurance for that And so on but I think he'd probably do a Subscription service and if he goes Directly from Fox he'll be well Positioned to just crush it I don't Think he'll wind up signing up with a Larger mediocre ecosystem whether it's The blaze or the daily wire or I just Think he's he's gonna if he does it
He'll do it on his own I'm just knowing Tucker but look there are certain Trade-offs you know having you and I are In the unique position of having works You know at the very very top of this Cable company and then gone off on our Own for sure your influence wanes in Some ways you know I mean I don't know That Tucker is going to have Ron DeSantis personally crafting his Ukraine policy to please Tucker if he's Hosting a digital show right right Um you know there's something about the Fox Powerhouse that makes a lot of these Politicians bend the knee and Tucker in Particular in that role however it's Also the case that you know who's more Who's more influential Ben Shapiro or Wolf Blitzer Right like we should go down the list There are your voice Ben Shapiro's right Joe Rogan Um a lot of these voices in the digital Space are much more relevant than 95 of The cable news anchors so Tucker will Have a bit of an a bit of an influence Drop in that way but he will no longer Have to do Fox's bidding he will be able To cover whatever story he wants in Whatever way he wants and believe me Though the outside world might not know It there were constraints put on him by Fox News and there were things that he Wanted to say that he couldn't because
You're not allowed to shoot inside the Tent and he can be free now to just say Whatever he wants as soon as he gets out Of his noun compete I will tell you that While it doesn't seem like your Influence is as big Um something has happened uh to me on Influence in the last six months I I was At a store before Easter a grocery store And my wife said ah we forgot this can You go back and get it I had to come Back back to the uh to the checkout Counter and I said I couldn't get it I Was stopped too many times and my kids Have said Dad what's going on with you Because I am I'm being stopped so much Now uh thank God in a positive way Because I live in Texas Um but there you just don't recognize The influence because it's not in one Place does that make sense Yes well I'll tell you the other thing Ben Shapiro said this to me when I was Trying to decide what my next move would Be after NBC and he said you know which Is true cable news is a dinosaur it's Dying and only very very old people are Watching it yeah and he said if somebody Stops me on the street who's over the Age of 50 and says oh I love your work I Always know they know me from Fox News And anybody under that age I know they Know me from my podcast yes and I think That's true I mean the digital space is
For tomorrow it's much more Forward-looking cable news has still got You know some loyal viewers for sure but Not to sound like I'm 200 but the kids Today are watching digital shows YouTube And podcasts that's that's how they get Their news they don't they don't sit in Front of the television eight o'clock at Night anymore no that's why the Advertising demo is you know dropping Precipitously for all of these anchors And so I do think for our ecosphere Where you and I now are it's great the Tuckers we Fox because he'll be another Powerful voice probably uh in our space And it's One Less Reason to tune into This Stilted let's face it boring Predetermined way of programming the News that has to please Paul Ryan and Rupert Murdoch and Suzanne Scott why do We have to please them why can't we just Deliver the news the way we want well You and I now can and Tucker's about to Be there too yeah Megan one last question on uh Donald Trump Bill said this really hurts the Trump campaign because Fox was so Important the first time around I agree with him I don't think it's any Accident that clearly the Murdoch's have Turned on Trump I mean just read the Journal and the post if you have any Doubt right and Tucker was an important
Voice for I think Tucker loves the Trump Fans I don't think Tucker loves Trump You know I I believe that behind the Scenes texts where he was looking Forward to like not having to cover him Every night right um but I think Tucker Loves the Trump fans and They they know that at Fox they don't Have a more powerful Voice who gets them Than Tucker and I don't think it's any Accident they got rid of bongino and now Tucker Tucker's going there's not Another person at Fox who gets the Maga Corps The Way Tucker does and always has By the way always has Megan thanks a lot we'll look forward to Your show here in just a minute if you Are listening to us on XM Sirius the Triumph Channel 111 she follows this uh Program and she's always great you can Also get her wherever you get your Podcasts or you can watch it on the on Her YouTube channel
